[3dem] Carbon evaporator for SPA

Mathew Peet mpeet at mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk
Thu Sep 14 07:41:32 PDT 2023 

Dear EM List,

HHV Ltd can service / upgrade the Edwards 306 system or sell complete “Auto 306 deposition” system.


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For new thermal evaporation there is also Moorfield Nanotechnology.
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Best wishes,

Mathew





> On 14 Sep 2023, at 14:08, Marion Jasnin <marion.jasnin at helmholtz-munich.de> wrote:
> 
> Dear Rachel, Eugene and Artemis,
> 
> Many thanks for your valuable input too.
> 
> The choice is then between the Q150V ES Plus, CCU-010 and the Cressington Turbo Carbon Coater 208.
> 
> Thanks again!
> Cheers,
> Marion
> 
> From: 3dem <3dem-bounces at ncmir.ucsd.edu <mailto:3dem-bounces at ncmir.ucsd.edu>> on behalf of Artemis Kosta <akosta at imm.cnrs.fr <mailto:akosta at imm.cnrs.fr>>
> Sent: 14 September 2023 14:10
> To: Eugene Pichkur <eugene.pichkur at gmail.com <mailto:eugene.pichkur at gmail.com>>; Jasnin, Marion <jasnin at biochem.mpg.de <mailto:jasnin at biochem.mpg.de>>
> Cc: 3dem at ncmir.ucsd.edu <mailto:3dem at ncmir.ucsd.edu> <3dem at ncmir.ucsd.edu <mailto:3dem at ncmir.ucsd.edu>>
> Subject: Re: [3dem] Carbon evaporator for SPA
>  
> We have a Cressington Turbo Carbon Coater 208 Carbon and we are very 
> happy also.
> You can combine it with a glow discharge module also.
> 
> Leica EM ACE600 didn't work nicely during the demo and I think the 
> consumables were quite expensive comparing to the carbon rods for 
> Cressington.
> 
> Best regards
> Artemis Kosta
> 
> Le 14/09/2023 à 14:00, Eugene Pichkur a écrit :
> > Long story short, high vacuum is necessary for fine grains, so a 
> > turbo/diffusion pump is a must have.
> > 
> > Leica EM ACE600 is not a reliable machine, we have several problems with 
> > it, especially with the thickness monitor. I know several other labs 
> > where people are also not happy with it for similar reasons.
> > Quorum Q150V is a simple and nice machine, I had no problems with it in 
> > several labs and used it for thin carbon film deposition, that was 
> > successfully used for SPA work (EMD-10655). I would go with the Q150V ES 
> > Plus version just to be able to deposit films onto the surface of 
> > samples for SEM. But I haven't managed to get the same quality of the 
> > film as in Quantifoil+2nm grids (these things are very-very thin and 
> > nice) but that totally depends on your skills.
> > On paper the Cressington Turbo Carbon Coater 208 Carbon looks fine too, 
> > I used it once and the result was ok.
> > 
> > An ultimate machine would be an R&D class deposition system with the 
> > e-beam gold evaporation, but the price is eye-watering.
> > 
> > Best,
> > Eugene
> > 
> > On Thu, Sep 14, 2023 at 12:44 PM Jasnin, Marion <jasnin at biochem.mpg.de <mailto:jasnin at biochem.mpg.de> 
> > <mailto:jasnin at biochem.mpg.de>> wrote:
> > 
> >     Dear all,
> > 
> >     we are in the process of buying a carbon evaporator for producing
> >     additional 5-15nm support films in SPA. Our experience in making
> >     carbon films is based on older machines that are no longer
> >     available. So far, we got two quotes more on the high-end side of
> >     the instrument spectrum but considering the good quality films we
> >     were able to produce with the old machines we are wondering if such
> >     an investment is necessary for SPA:
> > 
> >     Leica EM ACE600 Carbon Thread Coater
> >     * Carbon thread evaporation
> >     * Oil free UHV pump system with turbomolecular pump
> >     * Quartz crystal thickness measurement
> >     * Sample stage rotation
> > 
> >     Quorum Q150V E Plus
> >     * Carbon rod evaporation
> >     * Oil free UHV pump system with turbomolecular pump
> >     * Quartz crystal thickness measurement
> >     * Sample stage rotation
> > 
> >     Much cheaper options like the Leica EM ACE200 exist. We would
> >     appreciate some advice on how important expensive features like
> >     ultra high vacuum or sample stage rotation really are for SPA. 
> >     Hints which instrument you are successfully using for this
> >     application would also be very helpful.
> > 
> >     Thank you,
> >     Cheers,
> >     Marion
> > 
> > 
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