<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="overflow-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;"><div>Dear EM List,</div><div><br></div><div>HHV Ltd can service / upgrade the Edwards 306 system or sell complete “Auto 306 deposition” system.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div style="display: block;"><div style="-webkit-user-select: all; -webkit-user-drag: element; display: inline-block;" class="apple-rich-link" draggable="true" role="link" data-url="https://hhvltd.com/products/auto-series"><a style="border-radius:10px;font-family:-apple-system, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;display:block;-webkit-user-select:none;width:300px;user-select:none;-webkit-user-modify:read-only;user-modify:read-only;overflow:hidden;text-decoration:none;" class="lp-rich-link" rel="nofollow" href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://hhvltd.com/products/auto-series__;!!Mih3wA!Avu2ZwZt1IlE_bJ5RmJ60QjsLA-44RaqdrsoXC2hXn-nKXYzlijPmawl6_8ZKtdvY0VhoUmb4e_ttA1_TFPxoAzk$" dir="ltr" role="button" draggable="false" width="300"><table style="table-layout:fixed;border-collapse:collapse;width:300px;background-color:#E5E6E9;font-family:-apple-system, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;" class="lp-rich-link-emailBaseTable" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="300"><tbody><tr><td vertical-align="center"><table bgcolor="#E5E6E9" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="300" style="font-family:-apple-system, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;table-layout:fixed;background-color:rgba(229, 230, 233, 1);" class="lp-rich-link-captionBar"><tbody><tr><td style="padding:8px 0px 8px 0px;" class="lp-rich-link-captionBar-textStackItem"><div style="max-width:100%;margin:0px 16px 0px 16px;overflow:hidden;" class="lp-rich-link-captionBar-textStack"><div style="word-wrap:break-word;font-weight:500;font-size:12px;overflow:hidden;text-overflow:ellipsis;text-align:left;" class="lp-rich-link-captionBar-textStack-topCaption-leading"><a rel="nofollow" href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://hhvltd.com/products/auto-series__;!!Mih3wA!Avu2ZwZt1IlE_bJ5RmJ60QjsLA-44RaqdrsoXC2hXn-nKXYzlijPmawl6_8ZKtdvY0VhoUmb4e_ttA1_TFPxoAzk$" style="text-decoration: none" draggable="false"><font color="#272727" style="color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.847059);">HHV Auto Series</font></a></div><div style="word-wrap:break-word;font-weight:400;font-size:11px;overflow:hidden;text-overflow:ellipsis;text-align:left;" class="lp-rich-link-captionBar-textStack-bottomCaption-leading"><a rel="nofollow" href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://hhvltd.com/products/auto-series__;!!Mih3wA!Avu2ZwZt1IlE_bJ5RmJ60QjsLA-44RaqdrsoXC2hXn-nKXYzlijPmawl6_8ZKtdvY0VhoUmb4e_ttA1_TFPxoAzk$" style="text-decoration: none" draggable="false"><font color="#808080" style="color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.498039);">hhvltd.com</font></a></div></div></td><td style="padding:6px 12px 6px 0px;" class="lp-rich-link-captionBar-rightIconItem" width="36"><a rel="nofollow" href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://hhvltd.com/products/auto-series__;!!Mih3wA!Avu2ZwZt1IlE_bJ5RmJ60QjsLA-44RaqdrsoXC2hXn-nKXYzlijPmawl6_8ZKtdvY0VhoUmb4e_ttA1_TFPxoAzk$" draggable="false"><img style="pointer-events:none !important;display:inline-block;width:36px;height:36px;border-radius:3px;" width="36" height="36" draggable="false" class="lp-rich-link-captionBar-rightIcon" alt="5f1593fac510660021c22883_optimized.png" src="cid:FA26E29D-46FA-454C-8A94-D50141AD8929"></a></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></a></div></div></div><br><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>For new thermal evaporation there is also Moorfield Nanotechnology.</div><div><div style="display: block;"><div style="-webkit-user-select: all; -webkit-user-drag: element; display: inline-block;" class="apple-rich-link" draggable="true" role="link" data-url="https://moorfield.co.uk/products/minilab-026/"><a style="border-radius:10px;font-family:-apple-system, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;display:block;-webkit-user-select:none;width:300px;user-select:none;-webkit-user-modify:read-only;user-modify:read-only;overflow:hidden;text-decoration:none;" class="lp-rich-link" rel="nofollow" href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://moorfield.co.uk/products/minilab-026/__;!!Mih3wA!Avu2ZwZt1IlE_bJ5RmJ60QjsLA-44RaqdrsoXC2hXn-nKXYzlijPmawl6_8ZKtdvY0VhoUmb4e_ttA1_TPqxi-Jq$" dir="ltr" role="button" draggable="false" width="300"><table style="table-layout:fixed;border-collapse:collapse;width:300px;background-color:#E5E6E9;font-family:-apple-system, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;" class="lp-rich-link-emailBaseTable" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="300"><tbody><tr><td vertical-align="center"><table bgcolor="#E5E6E9" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="300" style="font-family:-apple-system, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;table-layout:fixed;background-color:rgba(229, 230, 233, 1);" class="lp-rich-link-captionBar"><tbody><tr><td style="padding:8px 0px 8px 0px;" class="lp-rich-link-captionBar-textStackItem"><div styl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d.edu">3dem-bounces@ncmir.ucsd.edu</a>> on behalf of Artemis Kosta <<a href="mailto:akosta@imm.cnrs.fr">akosta@imm.cnrs.fr</a>><br><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>14 September 2023 14:10<br><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Eugene Pichkur <<a href="mailto:eugene.pichkur@gmail.com">eugene.pichkur@gmail.com</a>>; Jasnin, Marion <<a href="mailto:jasnin@biochem.mpg.de">jasnin@biochem.mpg.de</a>><br><b>Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:3dem@ncmir.ucsd.edu">3dem@ncmir.ucsd.edu</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><<a href="mailto:3dem@ncmir.ucsd.edu">3dem@ncmir.ucsd.edu</a>><br><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [3dem] Carbon evaporator for SPA</font><div> </div></div><div class="BodyFragment" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><font size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;"><div class="PlainText">We have a Cressington Turbo Carbon Coater 208 Carbon and we are very<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>happy also.<br>You can combine it with a glow discharge module also.<br><br>Leica EM ACE600 didn't work nicely during the demo and I think the<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>consumables were quite expensive comparing to the carbon rods for<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>Cressington.<br><br>Best regards<br>Artemis Kosta<br><br>Le 14/09/2023 à 14:00, Eugene Pichkur a écrit :<br>> Long story short, high vacuum is necessary for fine grains, so a<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> turbo/diffusion pump is a must have.<br>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> Leica EM ACE600 is not a reliable machine, we have several problems with<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> it, especially with the thickness monitor. I know several other labs<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> where people are also not happy with it for similar reasons.<br>> Quorum Q150V is a simple and nice machine, I had no problems with it in<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> several labs and used it for thin carbon film deposition, that was<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> successfully used for SPA work (EMD-10655). I would go with the Q150V ES<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> Plus version just to be able to deposit films onto the surface of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> samples for SEM. But I haven't managed to get the same quality of the<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> film as in Quantifoil+2nm grids (these things are very-very thin and<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> nice) but that totally depends on your skills.<br>> On paper the Cressington Turbo Carbon Coater 208 Carbon looks fine too,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> I used it once and the result was ok.<br>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> An ultimate machine would be an R&D class deposition system with the<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> e-beam gold evaporation, but the price is eye-watering.<br>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> Best,<br>> Eugene<br>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> On Thu, Sep 14, 2023 at 12:44 PM Jasnin, Marion <<a href="mailto:jasnin@biochem.mpg.de">jasnin@biochem.mpg.de</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> <<a href="mailto:jasnin@biochem.mpg.de" id="OWAe10586fd-e5dc-0329-10ef-10e774f4fbd9" class="OWAAutoLink">mailto:jasnin@biochem.mpg.de</a>>> wrote:<br>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>>     Dear all,<br>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>>     we are in the process of buying a carbon evaporator for producing<br>>     additional 5-15nm support films in SPA. Our experience in making<br>>     carbon films is based on older machines that are no longer<br>>     available. So far, we got two quotes more on the high-end side of<br>>     the instrument spectrum but considering the good quality films we<br>>     were able to produce with the old machines we are wondering if such<br>>     an investment is necessary for SPA:<br>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>>     Leica EM ACE600 Carbon Thread Coater<br>>     * Carbon thread evaporation<br>>     * Oil free UHV pump system with turbomolecular pump<br>>     * Quartz crystal thickness measurement<br>>     * Sample stage rotation<br>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>>     Quorum Q150V E Plus<br>>     * Carbon rod evaporation<br>>     * Oil free UHV pump system with turbomolecular pump<br>>     * Quartz crystal thickness measurement<br>>     * Sample stage rotation<br>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>>     Much cheaper options like the Leica EM ACE200 exist. We would<br>>     appreciate some advice on how important expensive features like<br>>     ultra high vacuum or sample stage rotation really are for SPA.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>>     Hints which instrument you are successfully using for this<br>>     application would also be very helpful.<br>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>>     Thank you,<br>>     Cheers,<br>>     Marion<br>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>>     --<br>>     Marion Jasnin<br>>     Principal Investigator<br>>     Helmholtz Pioneer Campus<br>>     Helmholtz Munich<br>>     Ingolstädter Landstraße 1<br>>     85764 Neuherberg near Munich<br>>     Germany<br>>     Phone: +49 (0)89 3187 43896<br>>    <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:marion.jasnin@helmholtz-munich.de">marion.jasnin@helmholtz-munich.de</a><br>>     <<a href="mailto:marion.jasnin@helmholtz-munich.de" id="OWAa8b2f9f3-d5ea-6d3f-af12-02033a83cff9" class="OWAAutoLink">mailto:marion.jasnin@helmholtz-munich.de</a>><br>>     <<a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.pioneercampus.org/index.php?id=56765__;!!Mih3wA!F2B2cDp2iYPLULjPeYX9Zpq415PD35oUwL6qZWVQ8tKrarfQ8W94qf1hfMSXhG15u2dRe7W4TxPvHAtwBCm2orM$" data-auth="NotApplicable" id="OWA2f7c9ecc-69c9-478e-ee94-d6cf80f84074" class="OWAAutoLink">https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.com%2Fv3%2F__https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pioneercampus.org%2Findex.php%3Fid%3D56765__%3B!!Mih3wA!F2B2cDp2iYPLULjPeYX9Zpq415PD35oUwL6qZWVQ8tKrarfQ8W94qf1hfMSXhG15u2dRe7W4TxPvHAtwBCm2orM%24&data=05%7C01%7Cmarion.jasnin%40helmholtz-munich.de%7C534a002e53e24d95570a08dbb51bb3c1%7Ce229e4931bf240a79b8485f6c23aeed8%7C0%7C0%7C638302902821492632%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=DVHSXRF98STPvCE0u2c1jugSV7t7k0SHr2jF21DbvM4%3D&reserved=0</a>><a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https*3A*2F*2Furldefense.com*2Fv3*2F__https*3A*2F*2Fwww.pioneercampus.org*2Findex.php*3Fid*3D56765__*3B!!Mih3wA!HHT2aQrJRaU9ta7uUtojcvkFaNSBPbLXcwnXgrr7-gtFX4baeWeEaCHmYWYuj-VAjhq56WjkkCm96xM2AqM7*24&data=05*7C01*7Cmarion.jasnin*40helmholtz-munich.de*7C534a002e53e24d95570a08dbb51bb3c1*7Ce229e4931bf240a79b8485f6c23aeed8*7C0*7C0*7C638302902821492632*7CUnknown*7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0*3D*7C3000*7C*7C*7C&sdata=xRfD*2FiAHF*2FNxIk*2B6XEBKcawJ475LanfjbdgQcdkqh5U*3D&reserved=0__;JSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSU!!Mih3wA!FyknVE-tXG-Wr0F_Hoxh8GdT2aBgr19f8SGyJGGdxSvhQ3gqz_nfdhk6jhOAsjoAwUTwD-AsZR86HWDEdaz96luVdgQ29rgiO-3Q6Q$">https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.com%2Fv3%2F__https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pioneercampus.org%2Findex.php%3Fid%3D56765__%3B!!Mih3wA!HHT2aQrJRaU9ta7uUtojcvkFaNSBPbLXcwnXgrr7-gtFX4baeWeEaCHmYWYuj-VAjhq56WjkkCm96xM2AqM7%24&data=05%7C01%7Cmarion.jasnin%40helmholtz-munich.de%7C534a002e53e24d95570a08dbb51bb3c1%7Ce229e4931bf240a79b8485f6c23aeed8%7C0%7C0%7C638302902821492632%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=xRfD%2FiAHF%2FNxIk%2B6XEBKcawJ475LanfjbdgQcdkqh5U%3D&reserved=0 </a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><<a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.pioneercampus.org/index.php?id=56765__;!!Mih3wA!F2B2cDp2iYPLULjPeYX9Zpq415PD35oUwL6qZWVQ8tKrarfQ8W94qf1hfMSXhG15u2dRe7W4TxPvHAtwBCm2orM$" data-auth="NotApplicable" id="OWA1aa65a47-80fd-8a9b-48cb-39317557c8eb" class="OWAAutoLink">https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.com%2Fv3%2F__https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pioneercampus.org%2Findex.php%3Fid%3D56765__%3B!!Mih3wA!F2B2cDp2iYPLULjPeYX9Zpq415PD35oUwL6qZWVQ8tKrarfQ8W94qf1hfMSXhG15u2dRe7W4TxPvHAtwBCm2orM%24&data=05%7C01%7Cmarion.jasnin%40helmholtz-munich.de%7C534a002e53e24d95570a08dbb51bb3c1%7Ce229e4931bf240a79b8485f6c23aeed8%7C0%7C0%7C638302902821492632%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=DVHSXRF98STPvCE0u2c1jugSV7t7k0SHr2jF21DbvM4%3D&reserved=0</a>><br>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>>     _______________________________________________<br>>     3dem mailing list<br>>    <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:3dem@ncmir.ucsd.edu">3dem@ncmir.ucsd.edu</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><<a href="mailto:3dem@ncmir.ucsd.edu" id="OWA1a8d9c8e-fd55-55b7-7a42-1c464d034604" class="OWAAutoLink">mailto:3dem@ncmir.ucsd.edu</a>><br>>    <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://mail.ncmir.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/3dem" data-auth="NotApplicable" id="OWAd699fa6a-d389-da83-9c59-7795dcd89309" class="OWAAutoLink">https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmail.ncmir.ucsd.edu%2Fma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