[3dem] Carbon evaporator for SPA
Mathew Peet
mpeet at mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk
Thu Sep 14 07:41:32 PDT 2023
Dear EM List,
HHV Ltd can service / upgrade the Edwards 306 system or sell complete “Auto 306 deposition” system.
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For new thermal evaporation there is also Moorfield Nanotechnology.
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Best wishes,
Mathew
> On 14 Sep 2023, at 14:08, Marion Jasnin <marion.jasnin at helmholtz-munich.de> wrote:
>
> Dear Rachel, Eugene and Artemis,
>
> Many thanks for your valuable input too.
>
> The choice is then between the Q150V ES Plus, CCU-010 and the Cressington Turbo Carbon Coater 208.
>
> Thanks again!
> Cheers,
> Marion
>
> From: 3dem <3dem-bounces at ncmir.ucsd.edu <mailto:3dem-bounces at ncmir.ucsd.edu>> on behalf of Artemis Kosta <akosta at imm.cnrs.fr <mailto:akosta at imm.cnrs.fr>>
> Sent: 14 September 2023 14:10
> To: Eugene Pichkur <eugene.pichkur at gmail.com <mailto:eugene.pichkur at gmail.com>>; Jasnin, Marion <jasnin at biochem.mpg.de <mailto:jasnin at biochem.mpg.de>>
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> Subject: Re: [3dem] Carbon evaporator for SPA
>
> We have a Cressington Turbo Carbon Coater 208 Carbon and we are very
> happy also.
> You can combine it with a glow discharge module also.
>
> Leica EM ACE600 didn't work nicely during the demo and I think the
> consumables were quite expensive comparing to the carbon rods for
> Cressington.
>
> Best regards
> Artemis Kosta
>
> Le 14/09/2023 à 14:00, Eugene Pichkur a écrit :
> > Long story short, high vacuum is necessary for fine grains, so a
> > turbo/diffusion pump is a must have.
> >
> > Leica EM ACE600 is not a reliable machine, we have several problems with
> > it, especially with the thickness monitor. I know several other labs
> > where people are also not happy with it for similar reasons.
> > Quorum Q150V is a simple and nice machine, I had no problems with it in
> > several labs and used it for thin carbon film deposition, that was
> > successfully used for SPA work (EMD-10655). I would go with the Q150V ES
> > Plus version just to be able to deposit films onto the surface of
> > samples for SEM. But I haven't managed to get the same quality of the
> > film as in Quantifoil+2nm grids (these things are very-very thin and
> > nice) but that totally depends on your skills.
> > On paper the Cressington Turbo Carbon Coater 208 Carbon looks fine too,
> > I used it once and the result was ok.
> >
> > An ultimate machine would be an R&D class deposition system with the
> > e-beam gold evaporation, but the price is eye-watering.
> >
> > Best,
> > Eugene
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 14, 2023 at 12:44 PM Jasnin, Marion <jasnin at biochem.mpg.de <mailto:jasnin at biochem.mpg.de>
> > <mailto:jasnin at biochem.mpg.de>> wrote:
> >
> > Dear all,
> >
> > we are in the process of buying a carbon evaporator for producing
> > additional 5-15nm support films in SPA. Our experience in making
> > carbon films is based on older machines that are no longer
> > available. So far, we got two quotes more on the high-end side of
> > the instrument spectrum but considering the good quality films we
> > were able to produce with the old machines we are wondering if such
> > an investment is necessary for SPA:
> >
> > Leica EM ACE600 Carbon Thread Coater
> > * Carbon thread evaporation
> > * Oil free UHV pump system with turbomolecular pump
> > * Quartz crystal thickness measurement
> > * Sample stage rotation
> >
> > Quorum Q150V E Plus
> > * Carbon rod evaporation
> > * Oil free UHV pump system with turbomolecular pump
> > * Quartz crystal thickness measurement
> > * Sample stage rotation
> >
> > Much cheaper options like the Leica EM ACE200 exist. We would
> > appreciate some advice on how important expensive features like
> > ultra high vacuum or sample stage rotation really are for SPA.
> > Hints which instrument you are successfully using for this
> > application would also be very helpful.
> >
> > Thank you,
> > Cheers,
> > Marion
> >
> >
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