[3dem] [External] Re: tilted transfer functions?

Guillaume Gaullier guillaume.gaullier at icm.uu.se
Tue Mar 1 00:17:04 PST 2022


Hi David,

Maybe goCTF is the program you were thinking of?

https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__doi.org_10.1016_j.jsb.2018.11.012&d=DwIFAg&c=-35OiAkTchMrZOngvJPOeA&r=L7-zyQ-04fFCMRqzLIOnx7H0exGZHwIQe_wMPuY600I&m=slGb8qvejuUkwBNM1mgPL-0gCnPHmJJ2Zj3q5MonWalh7vus3gD1UU2XGd56_BuN&s=2UytSWYXa0FiSTVdn_nrITkww2QIVzXprwR20jBFk-w&e= 
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.lsi.umich.edu_science_centers-2Dtechnologies_cryo-2Delectron-2Dmicroscopy_research_goctf&d=DwIFAg&c=-35OiAkTchMrZOngvJPOeA&r=L7-zyQ-04fFCMRqzLIOnx7H0exGZHwIQe_wMPuY600I&m=slGb8qvejuUkwBNM1mgPL-0gCnPHmJJ2Zj3q5MonWalh7vus3gD1UU2XGd56_BuN&s=fvtxnCWeWPMrMi33oRmsfyPbPzYd3x3KuClHo6_hPbI&e= 

Cheers,

Guillaume


On 28 Feb 2022, at 23:50, Morgan, David Gene <dagmorga at indiana.edu<mailto:dagmorga at indiana.edu>> wrote:

Daniel,

The problem is that the tilt causes the higher resolution Thon rings to become out-of-phase, and so the standard programs can't give a decent estimate of the goodness of-fit.  I vaguely remember that someone had a program that took the tilt into account a number of years ago, but a quick hunt for it didn't turn up anything.

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I think any patch-based CTF program, like the one in cryosparc or gCTF's local mode (with evenly spaced coordinates instead of real particle locations) would work well. With cryoSPARC there's an easy method to plot the tilt axis; you can also choose a specific number X and Y divisions for the patches.

Best,
-da

On Mon, Feb 28, 2022 at 2:41 PM Morgan, David Gene <dagmorga at indiana.edu<mailto:dagmorga at indiana.edu>> wrote:
Hi,

What's the best way to evaluate the CTF of an image that has a significant amount of tilt?

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