[3dem] sharing em maps during peer-review process

[Edward Egelman]

Hi,
   Thanks for pointing this out, since the submission date to these 
archives (EMDB and PDB) is quite clear. They already have a strict 
policy: no one has access prior to release!
Regards,
Ed

On 5/2/15 9:57 AM, Hongwei Wang wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> I strongly support the openness of science as suggested by Ed, Eva, Gab,
> Sjors and many others on the mail list. I totally agree that having direct
> assessment of the 3D map and models and even a few raw micrographs by the
> reviewers will only make the story more solid. The ultimate publication will
> also benefit from this for test in the future.
>
> I would like to propose, for the worrisome of competition, that the
> community takes account of the map or model's valid deposition date on the
> databank server as a criteria to evaluate the novelty and originality of the
> work besides the paper's publishing date (receiving date and accepted date
> too). Of course, the databank server will need to set clear and strict rules
> on the validity of the deposition and probably set some new policy on who
> may access the deposited map or models before final release. Grant's
> bioarxiv idea may serve similar function as well.
>
> Best regards,
> Hongwei
>
>> dear colleagues,
>>
>> i would be interested in experiences / suggestions / views of others
>> in the field on  the following issue that may be of interest to many
>> of us:
>> the editor of our manuscript forwarded the request of a peer-reviewer
>> to access the cryo-em map of our beloved complex. this has never
>> happened to us, but to our surprise the editor did not consider the
>> request to be unusual.
>> of course, we share the point that the map would be of great help in
>> judging the interpretation of the data. however, we also feel very
>> uncomfortable sending the condensed result of lengthy research to an
>> anonymous colleague, who could theoretically make considerable misuse
>> of it. nevertheless, the policy of the journal seems to let us little
>> choice: "Supporting
>> data must be made available to editors and peer-reviewers at the time
>> of submission for the purposes of evaluating the manuscript.
>> Peer-reviewers may be asked to comment on the terms of access to
>> materials, methods and/or data sets".
>> in any case we would be curious whether others indeed got similar
>> requests and how they dealt with it. a good solution for (paranoid?)
>> people like us could be a good web-based viewer that lets others view
>> our map, but i would not know of such a tool.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Friedrich
>>
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>> Dr. Friedrich Foerster
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