[3dem] sharing em maps during peer-review process

James Whisstock james.whisstock at monash.edu
Thu Apr 30 16:58:10 PDT 2015


Hiya

In crystallography this happens a lot, particularly in the case of lower
resolution structures or where the interpretation of a critical point
really needs the reviewer to actually review the quality of the structure
and look at it - and, in support of what Eva wrote, anecdotally I have
heard (from authors of papers who have been the subject of such requests)
that some important points have been picked up as a consequence - for
example structures in wrong Space Groups, twinning and so on.  There is
also often a spike of debate around this issue on ccp4bb.  For what its
worth I've often shared coords with no issue and I guess that one has to
trust that most people are decent individuals who will do the right thing.

Cheers

J

On 1 May 2015 at 07:16, Eva Nogales <enogales at lbl.gov> wrote:

>  Hi Friedrich,
>
> We got the same request and we provided the map and model as a Chimera
> session to the editor and reviewer. I understand your point, but we have to
> trust the system and understand where the reviewers may be coming from. We
> do know of more than one example where having had such access  may have
> precluded publication of some really terrible structures. It will be
> interesting to hear what others think (and I have no doubt the reviewer(s)
> that asked for your and our maps is/are within the list reading this
> email...)
>
> Eva
>
> On 4/30/15 1:49 PM, Friedrich Foerster wrote:
>
>    dear colleagues,
>
>  i would be interested in experiences / suggestions / views of others in
> the field on  the following issue that may be of interest to many of us:
>  the editor of our manuscript forwarded the request of a peer-reviewer to
> access the cryo-em map of our beloved complex. this has never happened to
> us, but to our surprise the editor did not consider the request to be
> unusual.
> of course, we share the point that the map would be of great help in
> judging the interpretation of the data. however, we also feel very
> uncomfortable sending the condensed result of lengthy research to an
> anonymous colleague, who could theoretically make considerable misuse of
> it. nevertheless, the policy of the journal seems to let us little choice: "Supporting
> data must be made available to editors and peer-reviewers at the time of
> submission for the purposes of evaluating the manuscript. Peer-reviewers
> may be asked to comment on the terms of access to materials, methods
> and/or data sets".
>  in any case we would be curious whether others indeed got similar
> requests and how they dealt with it. a good solution for (paranoid?) people
> like us could be a good web-based viewer that lets others view our map, but
> i would not know of such a tool.
>
>  Thanks
>
>  Friedrich
>
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