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    <p>Dear all,</p>
    <p>    thank you very much for your suggestions! We finally made it
      with Eman2. I have just two last questions: 1) The curves are
      extremely noisy - probably because of the high resolution and
      sharpening. Is it legitimate to remove the very central density
      data and to filter the volumes to lower resolution and/or to
      smoothen the curves (e.g. Bezier). 2) Is it correct that the final
      diameter corresponds to the value where the curve passes zero
      density?</p>
    <p>Thanks, best, Dieter <br>
    </p>
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Dieter Blaas,
Max Perutz Laboratories
Medical University of Vienna, 
Inst. Med. Biochem., Vienna Biocenter (VBC), 
Dr. Bohr Gasse 9/3, 
A-1030 Vienna, Austria, 
Tel: 0043 1 4277 61630, 
Mobile: 0043 699 1942 1659 
e-mail: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:dieter.blaas@meduniwien.ac.at">dieter.blaas@meduniwien.ac.at</a>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 09.04.2024 19:38, David Michael
      Belnap wrote:<br>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif">Another
            option is bradial in the Bsoft package (website, bsoft.ws). 
            Here is an example command:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif">bradial
            -verbose 7 -subtractbackground -radial -origin 142,142,142
            -minmax 0,150 -step 0.5 run_class001.mrc<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:black">=======================================<br>
                David M. Belnap<br>
                Electron Microscopy Core Laboratory<br>
                Department of Biochemistry<br>
                School of Biological Sciences<br>
                2501 SMBB<br>
                University of Utah<br>
                Salt Lake City, Utah 84112 USA<br>
                Phone  801.585.1242<br>
                FAX  801.587.3077<br>
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style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">3dem
              <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:3dem-bounces@ncmir.ucsd.edu"><3dem-bounces@ncmir.ucsd.edu></a> on behalf of Carlos
              Oscar Sorzano <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:coss@cnb.csic.es"><coss@cnb.csic.es></a><br>
              <b>Date: </b>Tuesday, April 9, 2024 at 07:39<br>
              <b>To: </b>Dieter Blaas
              <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:dieter.blaas@meduniwien.ac.at"><dieter.blaas@meduniwien.ac.at></a>, "Ludtke, Steven J."
              <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:sludtke@bcm.edu"><sludtke@bcm.edu></a>, Tom Calcraft
              <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:tom.calcraft@crick.ac.uk"><tom.calcraft@crick.ac.uk></a><br>
              <b>Cc: </b><a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:3dem@ncmir.ucsd.edu">"3dem@ncmir.ucsd.edu"</a>
              <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:3dem@ncmir.ucsd.edu"><3dem@ncmir.ucsd.edu></a><br>
              <b>Subject: </b>Re: [3dem] determine spherically averaged
              radial density<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p>Same here, I am afraid you would need to update the Xmipp if
          you still want to use it.<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p>Kind regards, Carlos Oscar<o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal">El 09/04/2024 a las 14:39, Dieter Blaas
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          <p>Dear Tom and Steven,<o:p></o:p></p>
          <p>   thanks for the quick answer! But I also need to install
            the entire Eman2 package for it work?<o:p></o:p></p>
          <p>Best, Dieter<o:p></o:p></p>
          <pre>------------------------------------------------------------------------<o:p></o:p></pre>
          <pre>Dieter Blaas,<o:p></o:p></pre>
          <pre>Max Perutz Laboratories<o:p></o:p></pre>
          <pre>Medical University of Vienna, <o:p></o:p></pre>
          <pre>Inst. Med. Biochem., Vienna Biocenter (VBC), <o:p></o:p></pre>
          <pre>Dr. Bohr Gasse 9/3, <o:p></o:p></pre>
          <pre>A-1030 Vienna, Austria, <o:p></o:p></pre>
          <pre>Tel: 0043 1 4277 61630, <o:p></o:p></pre>
          <pre>Mobile: 0043 699 1942 1659 <o:p></o:p></pre>
          <pre>e-mail: <a href="mailto:dieter.blaas@meduniwien.ac.at"
          moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">dieter.blaas@meduniwien.ac.at</a><o:p></o:p></pre>
          <pre>------------------------------------------------------------------------<o:p></o:p></pre>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">On 09.04.2024 13:47, Ludtke, Steven J.
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            <p class="MsoNormal">To add, if your goal is to compute the
              radial density distribution as a curve rather than the
              averaged volume, 
              <o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">e2proc3d.py  --calcradial 0 map.mrc
                radial.txt<o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">(can also calculate min,max)<o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">e2proc3d.py  --help<o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Courier New"">Steven
                                  Ludtke, Ph.D.
                                  <a href="mailto:sludtke@bcm.edu"
                                    moz-do-not-send="true"><sludtke@bcm.edu></a>                      Baylor
                                  College of Medicine<br>
                                  Charles C. Bell Jr., Professor of
                                  Structural Biology        Dept. of
                                  Biochemistry <br>
                                  Deputy Director, Advanced
                                  Technology Cores                  and
                                  Molecular Pharmacology<br>
                                  Academic Director, CryoEM Core<br>
                                  Co-Director CIBR Center</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal">On Apr 9, 2024, at 5:34<span
                        style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span>AM,
                      Tom Calcraft
                      <a href="mailto:tom.calcraft@crick.ac.uk"
                        moz-do-not-send="true"><tom.calcraft@crick.ac.uk></a>
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                        style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">Hi
                        Dieter,<br>
                        <br>
                        The math.rotationalaverage function in EMAN2’s
                        e2proc3d.py should do what you are looking for:<br>
                        <br>
                        e2proc3d.py --process=math.rotationalaverage
                        input.mrc output.mrc<br>
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                        Best,<br>
                        Tom<br>
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                          style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">On
                          9 Apr 2024, at 10:33, Dieter Blaas <<a
                            href="mailto:dieter.blaas@meduniwien.ac.at"
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                          wrote:<br>
                          <br>
                          <br>
                          External Sender: Use caution.<br>
                          <br>
                          <br>
                          Dear all,<br>
                          <br>
                           we need to determine the spherically averaged
                          radial density of a<br>
                          symmetric virus. Long ago, we used for this
                          xmipp_operate but my old<br>
                          scipion3 and xmipp installs do not work any
                          more. Is there any other<br>
                          piece of software that can easily do this
                          without too much ado?<br>
                          <br>
                          Thanks for hints, Dieter<br>
                          <br>
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                          Dieter Blaas,<br>
                          Max Perutz Laboratories<br>
                          Medical University of Vienna,<br>
                          Inst. Med. Biochem., Vienna Biocenter (VBC),<br>
                          Dr. Bohr Gasse 9/3,<br>
                          A-1030 Vienna, Austria,<br>
                          Tel: 0043 1 4277 61630,<br>
                          Mobile: 0043 699 1942 1659<br>
                          e-mail: <a
                            href="mailto:dieter.blaas@meduniwien.ac.at"
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