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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Hi Axel,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I sent them a request for some samples and even said I would stop by but got no response. Still waiting……<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> 3dem [mailto:3dem-bounces@ncmir.ucsd.edu]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Axel Brilot<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 06, 2018 7:30 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Gregory Alushin <galushin@mail.rockefeller.edu><br>
<b>Cc:</b> 3dem <3dem@ncmir.ucsd.edu>; Grassucci, Robert <rg2502@cumc.columbia.edu><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [3dem] A new holey carbon TEM grid by PhiloGrids<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Since it's been a while since launch now, has anyone been able to obtain and test grids by Philogrids?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 12:27 PM, Gregory Alushin <<a href="mailto:galushin@mail.rockefeller.edu" target="_blank">galushin@mail.rockefeller.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Agreed. Inconsistency is a higher price in wasted time and effort than a slight premium for quality.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hopefully Philogrids is willing to provide samples to see if their product is what they claim.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">-Greg Alushin <o:p></o:p></p>
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On Feb 16, 2018, at 3:20 PM, Gabriel Lander <<a href="mailto:glander@gmail.com" target="_blank">glander@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I'm happy to pay that if the grids are consistent and delivered in a timely fashion.
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Feb 16, 2018, at 11:35 AM, Morgan, David Gene <<a href="mailto:dagmorga@indiana.edu" target="_blank">dagmorga@indiana.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> politics is more difficult than physics.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> A. Einstein<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> David Gene Morgan<br>
Electron Microscopy Center<br>
047D Simon Hall<br>
IU Bloomington<br>
<a href="tel:(812)%20856-1457" target="_blank">812 856 1457</a> (office)<br>
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<span class="m5118194537652064060apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://iubemcenter.indiana.edu">http://iubemcenter.indiana.edu</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#212121">From:</span></b><span class="m5118194537652064060apple-converted-space"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#212121"> </span></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#212121">3dem
<<a href="mailto:3dem-bounces@ncmir.ucsd.edu" target="_blank">3dem-bounces@ncmir.ucsd.edu</a>> on behalf of Huolin Xin <<a href="mailto:xinhuolin@gmail.com" target="_blank">xinhuolin@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b><span class="m5118194537652064060apple-converted-space"> </span>Friday, February 16, 2018 1:12 PM<br>
<b>To:</b><span class="m5118194537652064060apple-converted-space"> </span>Dokland, Terje<br>
<b>Cc:</b><span class="m5118194537652064060apple-converted-space"> </span>3dem; Grassucci, Robert<br>
<b>Subject:</b><span class="m5118194537652064060apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [3dem] A new holey carbon TEM grid by PhiloGrids</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#212121">
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#212121">On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 1:11 PM, Dokland, Terje<span class="m5118194537652064060apple-converted-space"> </span><<a href="mailto:dokland@uab.edu" target="_blank">dokland@uab.edu</a>><span class="m5118194537652064060apple-converted-space"> </span>wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#212121">My interpretation was that they are reselling C-flat grids, which have exactly the same 1.2/1.3 um hole spacing.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#212121">On Feb 16, 2018, at 10:34 AM, Grassucci, Robert wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Is this a scam? Nice website but without further information it is an unknown. It makes me nervous to place an order. Clifton is close
by to NYC so if you give us more information and perhaps some sample grids to try I can come by to verify Philogrids is a legitimate company. Please let us know.</span><span style="color:#212121"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Thank you.</span><span style="color:#212121"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#212121">From:</span></b><span class="m5118194537652064060m-2749337531935349522apple-converted-space"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#212121"> </span></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#212121">3dem
[mailto:<a href="mailto:3dem-bounces@ncmir.ucsd.edu" target="_blank">3dem-bounces@ncmir.ucsd.edu</a>]<span class="m5118194537652064060m-2749337531935349522apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="m5118194537652064060m-2749337531935349522apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Dennis
Thomas<br>
<b>Sent:</b><span class="m5118194537652064060m-2749337531935349522apple-converted-space"> </span>Thursday, February 15, 2018 1:49 PM<br>
<b>To:</b><span class="m5118194537652064060m-2749337531935349522apple-converted-space"> </span>Henning Stahlberg <<a href="mailto:henning.stahlberg@unibas.ch" target="_blank">henning.stahlberg@unibas.ch</a>><br>
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<b>Subject:</b><span class="m5118194537652064060m-2749337531935349522apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [3dem] A new holey carbon TEM grid by PhiloGrids</span><span style="color:#212121"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="color:#212121">On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 11:58 PM, Henning Stahlberg <<a href="mailto:henning.stahlberg@unibas.ch" target="_blank">henning.stahlberg@unibas.ch</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="color:#212121">Thanks for the link.<br>
I can see a P.O. box in Clifton and a phone number.<br>
But who are you, and what are your prices?<br>
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<span class="m5118194537652064060m-2749337531935349522hoenzb">Henning Stahlberg</span><br>
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<span class="m5118194537652064060m-2749337531935349522hoenzb">Tel.:</span><span class="m5118194537652064060m-2749337531935349522apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="m5118194537652064060m-2749337531935349522hoenzb"><a href="tel:%2B41-79-502%2075%2022" target="_blank">+41-79-502
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> On Feb 15, 2018, at 04:32, Philogrids <<a href="mailto:admin@philogrids.com" target="_blank">admin@philogrids.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> PhiloGrids is pleased to introduce our new holey carbon grid for cryo-EM.<br>
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