<div dir="ltr"><div><div>Hi All,<br><br></div>Since it's been a while since launch now, has anyone been able to obtain and test grids by Philogrids?<br><br></div>Axel<br><div><br><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 12:27 PM, Gregory Alushin <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:galushin@mail.rockefeller.edu" target="_blank">galushin@mail.rockefeller.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div>Agreed. Inconsistency is a higher price in wasted time and effort than a slight premium for quality.</div>
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<div>Hopefully Philogrids is willing to provide samples to see if their product is what they claim.</div>
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<b>Sent:</b><span class="m_5118194537652064060Apple-converted-space"> </span>Friday, February 16, 2018 1:12 PM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b><span class="m_5118194537652064060Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [3dem] A new holey carbon TEM grid by PhiloGrids</font>
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<div dir="ltr">At a lower price tag?
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<div style="word-wrap:break-word">My interpretation was that they are reselling C-flat grids, which have exactly the same 1.2/1.3 um hole spacing.
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<div>On Feb 16, 2018, at 10:34 AM, Grassucci, Robert wrote:</div>
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<span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Is this a scam? Nice website but without further information it is an unknown. It makes me nervous to place an order. Clifton is close by to NYC so if you
give us more information and perhaps some sample grids to try I can come by to verify Philogrids is a legitimate company. Please let us know.<u></u><u></u></span></div>
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<b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span class="m_5118194537652064060m_-2749337531935349522Apple-converted-space"> </span>3dem [mailto:<a href="mailto:3dem-bounces@ncmir.ucsd.edu" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">3dem-bounces@ncmir.ucs<wbr>d.edu</a>]<span class="m_5118194537652064060m_-2749337531935349522Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On
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<b>Subject:</b><span class="m_5118194537652064060m_-2749337531935349522Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [3dem] A new holey carbon TEM grid by PhiloGrids<u></u><u></u></span></div>
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On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 11:58 PM, Henning Stahlberg <<a href="mailto:henning.stahlberg@unibas.ch" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">henning.stahlberg@unibas.ch</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></div>
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Thanks for the link.<br>
I can see a P.O. box in Clifton and a phone number.<br>
But who are you, and what are your prices?<br>
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