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<p>    It is persistent, it changes with time (short term time scale - between record images a fast as you can record them) and we've tried wiggling cables, re-seating connectors, etc.  I will take a look tomorrow and see what happens if we wiggle, bump, push
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<div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font style="font-size:11pt" color="#000000" face="Calibri, sans-serif"><b>From:</b> Ludtke, Steven J <sludtke@bcm.edu><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 4, 2016 7:55 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Jaap Brink<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Morgan, David Gene; 3dem@ncmir.ucsd.edu<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [3dem] more on the odd CCD image</font>
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<div>I agree it was subtler in our case, but if I recall when we decided it might be the cable and wiggled it, I think we did get more visible noise, and this is how we decided it was actually the problem(?)   (This was maaany years ago, David)    Anyway, if
 it may be the cable, then wiggling it while in a faster live mode may reveal something.  I'm sure Gatan will be able to say more if the problem is persistent not transitory. I think I must have missed the original message, so I don't know what you said originally.
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<div class="">On Feb 4, 2016, at 6:40 PM, Jaap Brink <<a href="mailto:jbrink@jeol.com" class="">jbrink@jeol.com</a>> wrote:</div>
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<div class="">Steve, if I recall that event correctly weren't there a lot of spikes in the FFT? I don't remember whether or not the real space image looked this obviously bad. </div>
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On Feb 4, 2016, at 7:27 PM, Ludtke, Steven J <<a href="mailto:sludtke@bcm.edu" class="">sludtke@bcm.edu</a>> wrote:<br class="">
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 grounding issue or a bad cable all sorts of electrical badness can occur. If you know the readout rate of the detector you can estimate the frequency of the noise you're seeing.</span><br class="">
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<blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class="">On Feb 4, 2016, at 6:08 PM, David Gene Morgan <<a href="mailto:dagmorga@indiana.edu" class="">dagmorga@indiana.edu</a>> wrote:</span><br class="">
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