[3dem] About over-estimation

Jay Rai jrai at fsu.edu
Thu May 20 11:33:52 PDT 2021


Thank you for your suggestion.
Yes, I did same.  out of curiosity -i can still use chimeric maps for model refinement, right?
In my case, I use it for phenix real space refinement. Since, I need to provide the resolution, I provide the resolution from the largest maps. I found out that map to model resolution is somewhat acceptable (0.5). I have attached the map to model fsc too.
Thank you once again.


With kind regards,

Jay Rai​


Jay Rai, Ph.D.

Assistant in Research

Florida State Universit

Institute Of Molecular Biophysics

Email: jrai at fsu.edu

Twitter: @nepalijamesbond



________________________________
From: Frank, Joachim <jf2192 at cumc.columbia.edu>
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2021 2:03 PM
To: Jay Rai <jrai at fsu.edu>; 3dem at ncmir.ucsd.edu <3dem at ncmir.ucsd.edu>; 3dem <3dem-bounces at ncmir.ucsd.edu>
Subject: RE: About over-estimation


After stitching there is no way to determine the resolution – you have introduced sharp boundaries that will lead to incorrect estimation of resolution.  Why not simply report the resolutions of the individual maps that you have used to produce the chimeric structure?



--Joachim



From: 3dem [mailto:3dem-bounces at ncmir.ucsd.edu] On Behalf Of Jay Rai
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2021 1:59 PM
To: 3dem at ncmir.ucsd.edu; 3dem
Subject: [EXTERNAL] [3dem] About over-estimation





Dear Cryo EM folks,

I am just curious..

I focus refine each subunit of maps seperately. Then I used chimera's vop maximum to stich the map.

But when I refine that map to model, it is showing my resolution 2 angstrom.

I even take the unfiltered map from each subunits and stich and so the relion_preprocess and again same resolution.

I know it is because of the noise from each maps (which are outside the mask). I stick the maps from multi body refinement and it is ok so it must be the noise that makes the resolution higher.

Is there any way to calculate the resolution? Or in other words, is there any way to create the composite map?

Any help is greatly appreciated.



With kind regards,

Jay Rai​








-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://mail.ncmir.ucsd.edu/pipermail/3dem/attachments/20210520/69f87c11/attachment-0001.html>
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: model_map_fsc1.pdf
Type: application/pdf
Size: 253945 bytes
Desc: model_map_fsc1.pdf
URL: <http://mail.ncmir.ucsd.edu/pipermail/3dem/attachments/20210520/69f87c11/attachment-0001.pdf>


More information about the 3dem mailing list