[3dem] sharing em maps during peer-review process

Hernando J Sosa hernando.sosa at einstein.yu.edu
Fri May 1 07:00:14 PDT 2015


I have requested a few times PDB files when reviewing a paper but never got the request granted.

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Hiya

In crystallography this happens a lot, particularly in the case of lower resolution structures or where the interpretation of a critical point really needs the reviewer to actually review the quality of the structure and look at it - and, in support of what Eva wrote, anecdotally I have heard (from authors of papers who have been the subject of such requests) that some important points have been picked up as a consequence - for example structures in wrong Space Groups, twinning and so on.  There is also often a spike of debate around this issue on ccp4bb.  For what its worth I've often shared coords with no issue and I guess that one has to trust that most people are decent individuals who will do the right thing.

Cheers

J

On 1 May 2015 at 07:16, Eva Nogales <enogales at lbl.gov<mailto:enogales at lbl.gov>> wrote:
Hi Friedrich,

We got the same request and we provided the map and model as a Chimera session to the editor and reviewer. I understand your point, but we have to trust the system and understand where the reviewers may be coming from. We do know of more than one example where having had such access  may have precluded publication of some really terrible structures. It will be interesting to hear what others think (and I have no doubt the reviewer(s) that asked for your and our maps is/are within the list reading this email...)

Eva

On 4/30/15 1:49 PM, Friedrich Foerster wrote:
dear colleagues,

i would be interested in experiences / suggestions / views of others in the field on  the following issue that may be of interest to many of us:
the editor of our manuscript forwarded the request of a peer-reviewer to access the cryo-em map of our beloved complex. this has never happened to us, but to our surprise the editor did not consider the request to be unusual.
of course, we share the point that the map would be of great help in judging the interpretation of the data. however, we also feel very uncomfortable sending the condensed result of lengthy research to an anonymous colleague, who could theoretically make considerable misuse of it. nevertheless, the policy of the journal seems to let us little choice: "Supporting data must be made available to editors and peer-reviewers at the time of submission for the purposes of evaluating the manuscript. Peer-reviewers may be asked to comment on the terms of access to materials, methods and/or data sets".
in any case we would be curious whether others indeed got similar requests and how they dealt with it. a good solution for (paranoid?) people like us could be a good web-based viewer that lets others view our map, but i would not know of such a tool.

Thanks

Friedrich

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